Hello Again!
Keeping up with this Pleat To Street OOTD series as a continuation of adoration as expressed in this review.
This Pleat To Street Skirt is featured here in Bordeaux Drama. MY ABSOLUTE FAVORITE Lululemon Color. I wish I could say my favorite color is Paris Pink, but I just get more wear out of my Bordeaux Drama items. Shown with a matching Rest Less Pullover. PS: These flats are from Old Navy and are fabulous for the price.
Hello everyone,
A few of days ago I wrote a post about one of my favorite types of Lululemon Skirts, the Pleat to Street. A reader commented saying that she enjoyed posts about individual items (Thanks, Michele!), so I recalled a post that I had intended to write about Base Runners, and searched to see if I had written a draft at all, and unfortunately, although I had taken some photos of my Base Runners, I had yet to actually write this post. So, here it is, enjoy!
Base Runners
My opinion on Base Runners is as positive as my opinion on other items that I own & enjoy, however, this post will also encompass the opinions of the reviewers on Lululemon.com. My goal is to provide answers, to those purchasing these now or on eBay in a few months when they’re no longer on the Lululemon website.
I really love my Base Runners. They really are fabulous for wearing over shorts, or just for winter warmth in general. I’ve worn them during harsh Canadian winters and mild American winters alike. They’re comfy, cozy, soft and as described by Lululemon, have a “relaxed sensation.” I appreciate the little bit of reflectivity at the cuff as well as the deep pockets.
Quality Issues-
A reviewer has said that the waistband is rolling on her pair. I have not experienced this issue, but have heard that some people are/ do. This is something that I would concern myself with when making a purchase decision.
A few reviewers have complained about pilling. I haven’t experienced excessive pilling on any of my Base Runners- even the ones that are 3 years old. There are a few here or there, and there’s certainly some wear on them, but I take responsibility for that. The reason I feel that I have been able to keep my Lulus in the best possible condition is because I follow my own advice with regards to caring for them.
Some reviewers have complained that the newest versions are not holding up as well as the older versions. To be honest, I disagree, but in the interest of transparency, I will always do my best to talk about what the opinion is in aggregate- not just my own opinion. The reason I don’t believe that this is true is because the fabric content has largely remained the same, and admittedly anecdotally, I haven’t experienced increased pilling in my newest Base Runners as opposed to pairs I’ve owned from previous seasons.
Speaking of fabric content- I took photos of the fabric content of my Base Runners from previous seasons and from this season. As you can see, the fabric content has largely remained the same, with the exception of Elastane replacing the Spandex, which in my understanding is a very similar fabric.
Fit- I recommend sizing down, but if you’re a curvy girl like me, you might be more comfortable in your TTS. I wear these in my TTS- and frankly, I would be comfortable even if they were very loose on me (if, I lost weight or purchased a larger size) because they look like they can also be worn that way. So, if you’re checking these out on eBay, and they’re a size smaller, or your TTS, you’re in luck either way, as IMO, they’ll probably fit you just fine- although one will provide a slightly different (tighter or looser) look. Also: especially if you intend to wear these over shorts, you can go TTS (Or maybe even size up!). I wouldn’t want you to give up on a good deal on eBay if you spot a pair either a size up or a size down. Honestly, I’d probably give them a shot!
I hope this has been helpful! Thanks for stopping by!
Hello everyone!
Today, I want to switch gears a little bit and move from working on my content heavy posts to doing something a little more fun.
I LOVE the Pleat To Street skirts. They recently went to mark down, and there are still some there, so I thought that this post will help those who are still on the fence about whether or not they should get one. They’ve also been popping up on eBay and if you’re reading this, maybe you’re looking to buy one on the secondary market. Either way, I’m here to help!
First: Here’s a collection photo of the P2S II’s
This post will cover the pros and cons of this skirt as well as comparisons between all three editions of the Pleat To Street Skirt.
Pleat To Street Skirt I
I bought two Pleat To Street Skirts in the original version, and if I could, I’d buy them again. I have the Bumble Berry Stripe one, and the Bordeaux Drama one. They’re gorgeous. Here’s an OOTD with the “Blossom” Bumble Berry Stripe one. The shorts underneath match the colors of the skirts and they have the silicone bands to prevent riding up. I like the way the pleats fall and have received many compliments on these skirts. They’re also longer than my Pace Setters, which I like.
I, personally, can’t tell the difference between my Pleat To Street Skirt 1’s and 2’s, BUT upon close inspection of the hang tags, I can see that the 2’s have “added Lycra fabric for shape retention,” while the 1’s make no such claim. That said, I feel that my 1’s have held up well and have not lost their pleats with washing.
With regard to washing, I wash on delicate (like the rest of my Lulu) and hang to dry.
Pleat To Street Skirt II
The second edition of the skirt was manufactured, I imagine, in response to the positive reception of the first. The only negative feedback I recall was that some of the pleats were falling out- which is likely why the Lycra was included in this ‘next generation’ for shape retention. However, the general design of the skirts remained the same. Here’s an OOTD with my second generation Pleat To Street skirt in Pigment Blue.
As I’m writing this these Pleat To Street Skirt 2’s (and 3’s!) are still available in limited sizes on the “We Made Too Much” (sale) section of Lululemon’s website.
I really love my Pleat To Street Skirts, however, people are still having problems with the pleats coming out. I did read that one reviewer was able to pay her dry-cleaner $5 to put the pleats back in. I might do this if mine ever fall out. Although, the reviewer was not very pleased that she had to resort to hiring a dry-cleaner to help her with her item. As I stated, I have yet to experience this issue, however, in the interest of transparency, I feel that it must be mentioned. Also: Even though the Tranquil Blue/ Ace Spot colored Pleat to Street skirt is no longer available on Lululemon.com, I should mention that people have been complaining about the quality of this particular color of skirt to some extent with regard to seams and fraying, so maybe be cautious if you’re considering purchasing this particular color combination on eBay or elsewhere on the secondary market.
Pleat To Street Skirt III
I have mixed feelings about the Pleat To Street Skirt 3’s. While I still love the general design and fit of the skirt, the designers made the pleats (much!) closer together, which squishes together the pretty butterfly pattern (officially named: exploded so fly butterfly) of the one I purchased. A lot of reviewers (including myself) also don’t like that the shorts underneath of this butterfly one are white- unlike most of the other Pleat To Street skirts whose liners match the skirts to which they’re attached. So, while I am happy to have gotten it- I do prefer the Pleat To Street Skirt 1’s and 2’s.
Overall Pleat To Street Pros & Cons
Pros
Cons
Honestly, I absolutely love these skirts. Even though I agree with the reviewers on some of the cons, I think these skirts are so pretty and they fit me quite well. I’m happy to report that these will be staying in my collection and I’ll continue to post OOTDs with them.
What do you think of the Pleat To Street skirts? Let me know in the comments below!
Update: I thought it would be fun to do an outfit of the day series of me wearing all my Pleat to Street skirts, so in the following days, I’m going to be posting outfits of the day wearing various Pleat To Street Skirts and posting the links below!
Day 1: Exploded So Fly Butterfly
Day 2: Pipe Dream Blue
Day 3: Poseidon/Sea Mist
Day 4: Watermark/ Slate Black
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I noticed that some of the reviews on the Kanto Catch Me 1/2 Zips mentioned changes to Rulu fabric and I wanted to do some comparisons for you from this year’s to previous year’s Rulu fabric content. Quality is extremely important to me and it’s the main reason why I LOVE Lululemon as a brand- though, I must admit that they do an excellent job of marketing towards people like me. Whenever there is a quality issue, however, I hope I get a chance to address it.
What I want to start with is the complaint:
She is clearly upset that what she imagined was a high-quality fabric, turned out to be (nearly) half Polyester. I understand that. I also understand that she feels as though she’s been deceived. I agree, particularly to the degree that the blue top is 44% Polyester. That is unlike all the other Rulu I own. To the degree that the white top is polyester, that is more common among other Rulu I own and I would not be upset if I had purchased the white top. However, it is on the cusp. For comparison, I chose last year’s half-zip incarnation, the Race Your Pace, of which I own two.
On the left, is the Coco Pique/ black one I wore in yesterday’s OOTD, the other is a Heathered black grape one. This is actually a great example of how a particular style can have two items with radically different fabric composition. The first is 91% Nylon, while the second is only 53% Nylon. The first is definitely softer, and more “cozy,” while the second, in my opinion, works better as a functional piece (it’s not as warm). I do find them both “soft,” but it’s obvious which has the higher Nylon content. I personally agree with this other reviewer, who agrees that, while the Rulu is not the same, it’s still nice.
Full disclosure: I have tried on the Kanto Catch me LS, but not the half zips. I will next time I’m in-store, if my store has them!
While I do love me some Rulu, I can definitely see the point of people like this other reviewer who was expecting Rulu and got something that they can literally feel is different.
Bottom Line
Lulu is probably gonna have to eat some of their margin on this one. Too many bad reviews already. Let’s hope these go to markdown, although we probably won’t find out until after the holiday season.
I still love Rulu, but will definitely be checking out the inner tags just to make sure I’m getting what I’m paying for.
What do you think? Is the fabric content a deal-breaker for you? Or do you love Rulu regardless? Let me know in the comments below!
UPDATE: These actually did go to WMTM 🙂 Yay!
Good day internet people! It has been quite some time since I last wrote, and part of the reason is that I was out of town, another reason is that I have not felt inspired to write and still another part is that I have been writing more often for academic purposes rather than simple pleasure. In any case, I’m back in town and looking forward to adding my voice to the recent changes in a key part of Lululemon’s marketing strategy.
The Pant Wall
The pant wall is one of Lululemon’s key selling features. During on-boarding (training) educators are thoroughly acquainted with The Wall. Hours are spent training, learning how to educate guests about the different features of the different types of pants, all the while folding and re-folding pair upon pair of Lululemon pants. Sometimes it can get lonely at The Wall…
No, not THAT wall!
That’s better.
So, they’ve updated the infamous pant wall to reflect how their guests want to FEEL. Personally, I think this is a fabulous marketing strategy. Naomi Klein talks about brand dissemination in her book No Logo and in an interview in the 2003 documentary “The Corporation,” she said that
“Branding is not advertising it’s production. And very successful corporations, the corporations of the future do not product products, they produce brand meaning. The dissemination of the idea of themselves is their act of production, and the dissemination of the idea of themselves is an enormously invasive project. So how do you make a brand idea real? Well, a good place to start is by building a 3D manifestation of your brand.”
These ideas remind me of photos I took in China. These photos depict a globe, engraved with several well-known brand logos.
While these are 3D depictions of brands, this is not what Naomi was talking about, but this globe represents how strongly people associate with brands. I imagine myself as the artist, considering what progress means, and maybe it means the growth of large companies all over the world, but particularly those that come to developing nations to start operations such as the brands featured on this globe. I originally took both of these photos for the juxtaposition of old China vs. new, but I’m glad they could make it into my blog.
So, Lululemon is attempting to increase its brand penetration by helping its consumer base associate it with positive feelings like ‘feeling hugged.’ While I applaud the effort, (however transparent it seems to me) I remarked a slight discrepancy between the positive feelings I was experiencing after being hugged in their *Special Edition* Laser Dot Wunder Under Crop, and the negative feelings I associated with the not so minor price increases that accompanied this new marketing campaign. Many pants were re-priced and new pants are now more expensive that they would have been had they been released a week prior.
In this case, Lululemon is attempting to change the way you choose pants shifting from function (because who cares if you can actually work out in them?), to how they make you feel. Regardless of my skepticism, this marketing campaign probably tested well with the focus groups and was likely designed by a professional marketing firm. It’s a great idea that I hope they’re able to transition across all product lines. This idea is founded in current research on marketing psychology and I think it’s a winner despite my ability to see through it.
So, now that I’ve explained my opinion on the marketing strategy, let’s discuss those pesky price increases. Lululemon is a luxury brand. In order to maintain the illusion of exclusivity they must tread delicately between being so expensive as to evoke hostility and being so cheap as to be replaced by another brand in its competitive ‘luxury athleisure wear’ category. While I am not completely stoked about the price increases, I understand pricing strategy and respect the brand for making an unpopular decision. Those who don’t like the price increase will move on to other products (such as Athleta, whose quality is comparable, yet prices are lower), and those who are brand loyal will stay the course and continue to make their purchases regardless of such increases in price. It’s the boring answer, but I am confident that it represents the reactions of the vast majority of the Lululemon-buying public.
What do you think about the new marketing campaign? What do you think about the prices? How about my analysis? I’d love to hear from you!
In case anyone is interested: I did not buy the *SE Laser Dot Wunder Under crops, they’re pretty, but I already have a pair of Bordeaux Drama WUCs, and did not see what was so *special* about these. 🙂
I just HAD to share this because we all know how rarely Lululemon holds sales.
My opinion: We Made Too Much section has been pretty barren for many weeks. Not since Boxing Day has anything in the mark down section other than one pair of Wunder Unders caught my eye- And those were on “Super Mark Down” at only $34! Here’s a picture because I wouldn’t believe me either! LOL!
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Given the fact that the last several weeks of “We Made Too Much” have consisted of items that were either sold out in popular sizes (6,8), or that they were unpopular items in general, I was delighted when I opened up “We Made Too Much” this morning to see so many gorgeous items in full size runs. I can’t make any guarantees that you’ll find something cute for yourself, but I would take a peek this week if I were you.
The other thing I want to let you know about are the IN-STORE sales that are happening. As far as I know, nothing is happening in my local store, but I’ve seen a few ads about stores in other markets that are holding sales in-store! Don’t forget to sign up for local emails and check the Facebook page(s) of your local Lululemon(s) to see if they’re holding a sale this weekend like other stores!
Here are a few I’ve seen:
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The culture of Lululemon addicts is such that we are constantly anticipating the next BIG THING. The next release of Pigment Blue, a NEW(!!) Space Dye, the future “revolutionary” design feature that will change our lives. What’s interesting about this mentality is the social conditions under which it’s fostered. The newest “craze” will hit the message boards, blogs and, finally, the public and BAM! The next thing you know you’re on EvilBay about to pay DOUBLE retail on an (albeit gorgeous) pair of Wunder Unders. The questions I intend to address in this post are all about the Unicorns. Unicorns are highly sought after Lululemon items, that often sell for much more than retail on eBay and other aftermarket venues. But what makes the something become a Unicorn? How do you know something will sell out quickly? Is it worth hitting “reload” on your computer every 6 seconds when waiting for the upload? What are some examples of Unicorns? I first discussed “unicorns” in my post on The Vernacular of a Lululemon Addict. There are so many “unicorns” that a new term, “pony,” is emerging to describe “mini-unicorns,” or items that can be somewhat difficult to find or are popular, but are not full-fledged unicorns. I’d like to address and discuss many of these questions and more in this post, On Unicorns.
The first thing that affects whether or not something will become a future unicorn is initial desirability (initial demand). If people on the chat board are going crazy over a particular print or color, you can imagine, that it will at least sell out, and that when it does, the lucky few who were able to obtain it may choose to capitalize on their luck and sell the item on eBay, often for a (small) profit. Once THOSE sell out and a few weeks go by, no NWTs incarnations of the sold-out item are showing up on the Lululemon Auction pages and all the stores have sold out as well, you may have a future Unicorn on your hands. Sometimes, initial desirability has nothing to do with subsequent unicorn status. For example, Unicorn Tears was not supremely popular when it was initially released, some of the items even went to mark down! (Augh!) But other things, like those Herringbone Vinyasa scarves that got released and sold out in 5 minutes are now selling for around $100 (or more!). They may become unicorns in the future, but for now they’re not too hard to find. They’re just a little (!) pricier than they should be. One full fledged unicorn is the Quiet Stripe Wunder Under Crop. These things go for around $400 on eBay and on the boards. Another would be the Stitch (name of the blue-green colour) Gratitude Wrap ($400). Yet another is the Unicorn Tears Down Time Jacket, which I’ve also witnessed command $350.
The second thing that I think affects whether something becomes a unicorn or not is production, therefore “supply.” I don’t know how many of what things Lululemon makes. I DO know that they make lots of black stretchy pants. But I don’t know how many Stitch Gratitude Wraps they have made. I don’t think that they made a ton of them though. The lower the production run of a given item, the greater the ultimate desirability due to rarity. Availability also affects the price commanded due to basic tenets of supply and demand. Recently, Lululemon has rereleased some rarer and highly coveted colors like Pigment Blue. This has increased supply and reduced the eBay and Lulu Facebook Board prices for other Pigment blue items. Although this has been item dependent, many of us who were not willing to pay more than retail for a Pigment Blue item, got our hands on some beauties while Lulu was selling them.
Another thing that I think affects whether or not something becomes a unicorn is simply eccentricity. Is it terribly unique? I love Unicorn Tears because it’s different. I think that it experienced a certain degree of unpopularity when it first came out because it was too different, but now that it’s a recognized Lululemon pattern, people want a piece of it.
One way you can figure out if something is going to sell out quickly is if there’s a lot of buzz on the boards about it. Check the blogs too! Are people asking questions about the sizing of a specific item? Chances are that they are concerned that it will sell out too. If you really really want something, I would recommend hitting reload on your computer screen a million times or risk missing out. I’m sorry I don’t have better advice. If you DO miss it, you can also call your local store to see if they have it in stock. I’ve heard of RARE cases of a store holding a specific item, but the clients I heard of this happening for were well-known at their respective stores.
I hope that this post has been somewhat helpful. I know it can be frustrating when things sell out only to end up on eBay the next day, and that the only way to avoid paying double for the same exact item is to stare at the “reload” screen and hit the button a million times, but I think that Lululemon does their best to keep people who buy full size runs off the site. Yes, Lulu has banned people for buying too many of a single item in many sizes. I’ve also heard of cases where people have been banned from individual store locations (specifically the warehouses) for buying “with intent to resell.” Although it may not be a popular opinion among those who intend to resell, I hope that Lululemon keeps up this policy and prevents those who intend to resell brand new, potential unicorns on eBay for profit off it’s website, giving all of us a fair chance. I feel compelled to say that this isn’t to say that people shouldn’t be able to buy two sizes of the same item for sizing purposes, but I think it’s completely different to buy two of every size. I just wanted to make that distinction. //Rant Over//
If you have any tips on how to capture new unicorns OR how to tell if something is going to become a unicorn, I’d love to hear it! Please let me know in the comments below!!
I wanted to take a few minutes to write about one of my all-time favorite Lulu tanks that was discontinued earlier this year. It was definitely one of my staples and you could pretty much guarantee I would grab them on markdown. I still wear the ones I have all the time and on any given day you can expect to see me in either an NLT (No Limits Tank) or a 105 F Singlet. The NLT is basically a very flowy top with a Flow Y bra sewn in. And they are also good at hiding bellies, pregnant ones, or ones with no excuse like mine.
As per usual, this blog is about resale, and I want to mention that NLTs, on average don’t hold their value as well as, let’s say, Cool Racerbacks. The reason, I think, is because the condition of these can be difficult to maintain. The mesh part can pill or easily get snagged and I’m always worried that it will show up looking very worn, so I almost never purchase NLTs second hand. The only times I have they were NWT, OR a rare color (I love my Blurred Blossom one!). NLTs have been selling on eBay for between $35 and $55, on average. As I mention in my post How to Determine the Value of Your Item, you can always search the sold listings in eBay for ideas and to see what your item has been selling for recently.
I talked about the Define jacket in my post comparing it to the Forme jacket, and I talk about how much I do prefer the Define and how disappointed I was that it had been discontinued. I hope that the No Limits Tank is re-launched in a year or two as well, and that I get to write another post like this one, only about the NLT.
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I was inspired to write this post by a reader who commented on my post about How To Spot Fake Lululemon. The focus of that post is self-evident. However, once you determine that you’ve purchased an inauthentic product, what are you to do? First, it depends on the venue from which you’ve purchased the product, so I will try to address resolution options based on venue of purchase.
On eBay:
If you’ve purchased a fake Lululemon product on eBay, you may choose to contact the seller for a return or simply open a case. You are covered under eBay’s policy and should be eligible for a refund. *note: you may be responsible for return shipping*
Facebook Groups:
If you purchased a fake Lululemon garment on any Facebook group, and you’ve read my post on The Difference Between Paying as Gift or as Goods on PayPal, and you took my advice and paid as goods, you are eligible under PayPal’s policies for a refund. If you paid as gift, you are technically not eligible but you may want to try anyways, as I have heard of cases where a refund was granted regardless of the fact that the article was paid for as “gift” or “friends and family.” If you paid as EMT (Email Money Transfer), an option available to Canadians, I don’t believe there is any recourse, financially, for you. Legally, you may contact the authorities. I have heard of serial sellers of fake Lululemon goods facing prosecution, however, I never heard of any of the money being returned.
Which brings me to the next venue of purchase,
Locally:
As above, legal recourse may be an option. Paying in cash is the least safe option and I can’t think of any ways you might retrieve it. I have purchased locally before with my PayPal app, and I recommend that to others. Even if you have to pay as “gift,” at the request of the seller, it’s safer to avoid carrying cash, in my opinion.
I’ve mentioned before in other posts, if someone sells fakes, please make it known to whichever community within which you made the purchase that that seller is a danger. Let the Facebook group admins know, give negative feedback on eBay, call the authorities if you have the person’s name or phone number.
I hope this post has been helpful, please let me know if I’ve missed anything and enjoy my related posts that can be found by clicking the embedded links!
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So, I have a small confession, I only own one of these amazing things. But this post is going to be ALL ABOUT The Savasana Wrap.
I absolutely love the Savasana wrap. It’s perfect for fall, and coming out again in July! I’m so excited!
Here’s the product information about the wrap:
Fit: The Savasana wrap is a very forgiving item, with regards to fit. The main metric I would consider when purchasing one is the sleeves. If the sleeves are too tight, it’s probably not going to be very comfortable, and if they’re too loose it might look frumpy. I wear my regular size in the Savasana wrap, so I would say that they’re true to size. But I’ve heard that some people size down. I would also be a great maternity piece, as there’s a lot of room in the front.
There are a few different ways to wear the Savasana wrap. You can wear it with all the snaps done up.
You can wear it with some of the buttons done up. And Lululemon often makes the liner adorable! Some cute examples:
As you can see, if you wear it with some of the buttons done up, and the liner exposed, it actually looks even cuter than with all the buttons done up, in my opinion. The final option is to leave it completely open. You’ll find some examples below:
As mentioned in the product information, these Savasana wraps are designed to be used as a blanket during Savasana. When laid out, they are square. Here’s an example.
I have another post called “All about Scuba Hoodies,” if you enjoyed this one.
I also want to mention that last time these were released they retailed for $118, I hope Lululemon sticks with that price point.
Anyways, I really can’t wait to get my hands on these. I really hope to see some creative designs and the good old fashioned quality that was typical of these in prior releases. What are your thoughts on the Savasana wrap? Adorable? Fashionable? Frumpy? Let me know in the comments below!
UPDATE: July 29th, 2014
Today’s the day that Lululemon uploaded the NEW 2014 Savasana wraps! I’m happy to report that they DID stick with the $118 retail price.
As far as the liner colours- I’ll be honest, I’m guessing. Both are now sold out/ out of stock. I have yet to purchase one. The reason being that I am still waiting for the Dune/ Jewelled Magenta one that I believe will be the next colour released. It’s just a guess, but honestly, I’ve never seen the colour pictured above. Have any of you? If you know what it is, please let me know. Maybe I’m just engaging in wishful thinking, but I really hope there’s one with a Jewelled Magenta liner. *nudge, nudge, Lulu*
UPDATE:
So, it looks like Canada sold out in the Dune colour in 5 minutes and they’re getting Black next week. I’m still hopeful that we’ll get another color, but I’m starting to doubt it. I wonder if it will be available in the fall, perhaps? Or Christmas? I was really hoping that we’d get something more stain resistant than Dune and more exciting than black. (Or, if it has to be dune, that pretty Jewelled Magenta (?) liner will do nicely… I just won’t wear it around my little ones.) I have a black Gratitude Wrap and I just don’t need a Black Savasana Wrap.
As for the colours of the liners: I found a photo:
If we do get another colour, or if I hear anything- I’ll update here 🙂
UPDATE: July 31, 2014
From what I’m reading on Hey Lululemon.com, I don’t believe that we will be getting another colour SOON. However, I am still curious as to whether we’ll be getting one in the Fall, or November, right before the Christmas season. The comments made by Lululemon’s representatives said that they’d be releasing all the inventory at once, though there was a problem with the Dune on the Canadian side, so that will be released next week. I am still curious about the one I posted above and again, if any of you have seen the ‘what looks to be Jewelled Magenta lined Dune’ please let me know. If I see a re-stock, trust me, I’ll let you know, but somehow I imagine that eBay and the Facebook auction boards will see these first.
I guess that’s all for now-
Thanks for reading!
UPDATE: HeyLululemon.com has been retired by Lululemon as of May 16, 2016
